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Episode 67: Why "Do You Know Anyone?" Is the Wrong Referral Ask and What to Say Instead
Ownership & Exit, Referrals & Partnerships David Hoos 4/17/26 Ownership & Exit, Referrals & Partnerships David Hoos 4/17/26

Episode 67: Why "Do You Know Anyone?" Is the Wrong Referral Ask and What to Say Instead

Dan Englander on why "do you know anyone?" kills referrals, why 80% of agency sales hires fail, and the counterintuitive AI play that isn't about AI.

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Episode 66: The Partner Buyout, the $4 Billing Error, and Why "Do More With More" Beats Cutting Heads
Ownership & Exit David Hoos 4/10/26 Ownership & Exit David Hoos 4/10/26

Episode 66: The Partner Buyout, the $4 Billing Error, and Why "Do More With More" Beats Cutting Heads

Ben Fox on the 13-year partnership that split, the $4 Cloudflare billing error that built ZeroArc, and why he's growing headcount instead of cutting it.

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Episode 65: He Built a High 7-Figure Agency With Zero MRR. And Your Gross Margins Are Probably Wrong.
Ownership & Exit, Offer & Delivery David Hoos 4/3/26 Ownership & Exit, Offer & Delivery David Hoos 4/3/26

Episode 65: He Built a High 7-Figure Agency With Zero MRR. And Your Gross Margins Are Probably Wrong.

Sam built a high seven-figure agency almost entirely on project revenue, because MRR is a billing mechanism rather than a growth strategy. He has also never seen an agency P&L with correct gross margins, and thinks 50% is the floor before you spend anything on marketing.

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Episode 62: Pay People Like Adults
Ownership & Exit David Hoos 1/21/26 Ownership & Exit David Hoos 1/21/26

Episode 62: Pay People Like Adults

Founders want to pay good people more and freeze on the question of when it's safe. James Kwon's answer is Slices: split every dollar that comes in into fixed percentages, so you see profit before you celebrate hitting a billable target on a project that blew up.

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Episode 56: Stop Selling Services and Start Solving Million-Dollar Problems
Ownership & Exit, Positioning & Differentiation David Hoos 5/23/25 Ownership & Exit, Positioning & Differentiation David Hoos 5/23/25

Episode 56: Stop Selling Services and Start Solving Million-Dollar Problems

Most agencies lead with what they can do. Michael learned to lead with the problem instead, and Caxy went from selling apps to solving million-dollar inefficiencies. The bandwidth check-in with existing clients now drives more than half their growth.

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Episode 41: Why Deal Flow Matters More Than Recurring Revenue
Ownership & Exit David Hoos 12/4/24 Ownership & Exit David Hoos 12/4/24

Episode 41: Why Deal Flow Matters More Than Recurring Revenue

Peter Kang on why deal flow matters more than recurring revenue, and how optionality, de-risking and a portfolio mindset make an agency worth acquiring.

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Episode 40: How a 65-Person Agency Broke Through the 20-Person Wall
Ownership & Exit David Hoos 11/19/24 Ownership & Exit David Hoos 11/19/24

Episode 40: How a 65-Person Agency Broke Through the 20-Person Wall

Word of mouth and fast quoting got fjorge to about twenty people, then it stopped working. Joe Barsness on the outbound they had to build, why partnering with creative agencies that needed dev capacity carried them for years, and what follow-up looks like when it isn't asking for work.

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Episode 26: How a Chamber of Commerce Lunch Turned 15 Attendees Into 4 Clients
Ownership & Exit, Demand & Visibility David Hoos 7/31/24 Ownership & Exit, Demand & Visibility David Hoos 7/31/24

Episode 26: How a Chamber of Commerce Lunch Turned 15 Attendees Into 4 Clients

Brien Gearin joined the local Chamber of Commerce, ran a Lunch and Learn, and taught instead of pitching. Fifteen people in the room turned into four clients. The unglamorous local play most agency owners overthink.

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Episode 21: How a Video Agency Scaled on Retainers Without Losing Its Soul
Ownership & Exit, Offer & Delivery David Hoos 7/12/24 Ownership & Exit, Offer & Delivery David Hoos 7/12/24

Episode 21: How a Video Agency Scaled on Retainers Without Losing Its Soul

Kyle Bush on scaling a video agency with profit, process and a make-it-cool-to-care culture, and why retainers beat living on the project rollercoaster.

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Episode 2: You Cannot Sell Consulting and Implementation at the Same Time
Ownership & Exit, Offer & Delivery David Hoos 1/29/24 Ownership & Exit, Offer & Delivery David Hoos 1/29/24

Episode 2: You Cannot Sell Consulting and Implementation at the Same Time

Kevin stopped scaling the team and built a deconstructed agency: he sells strategy and leadership, then brings specialists in without marking up delivery. Why selling advice and execution together quietly breaks trust, and how to phase it in without burning the ships.

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